{"id":1363,"date":"2017-11-13T12:47:16","date_gmt":"2017-11-13T17:47:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/guidetojapanese.org\/learn\/?p=1363"},"modified":"2022-01-14T14:41:29","modified_gmt":"2022-01-14T19:41:29","slug":"using-%e3%80%8c%e3%83%9e%e3%82%b8%e3%80%8d-for-real","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/guidetojapanese.org\/learn\/using-%e3%80%8c%e3%83%9e%e3%82%b8%e3%80%8d-for-real\/","title":{"rendered":"Using \u300c\u30de\u30b8\u300d for real"},"content":{"rendered":"

Originally published: 2005\/5\/31<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I’m back! Most of you probably don’t know this (or care) but I actually have a real full-time job. And this being Japan, full-time means more like 9 to 8 rather than 9 to 5. So those of you who think I sit at home in my boxers working on my computer, I’m actually stuffed in a crowded train disguised amongst hundreds of Japanese businessman. And since our project is running late on the release date, I’m working more like 9 to 10… and I don’t mean one hour. No really. \u30de\u30b8\u3067\u3002 And I suppose that’s just as good as any lead-in to the topic at hand: “How to use \u30de\u30b8 to talk about what’s real.”<\/p>\n

What is \u30de\u30b8?<\/h2>\n

Once you start practicing Japanese with real people outside of the classroom, you’re bound to run into the word \u300c\u307e\u3058\u300d probably sooner rather than later.<\/p>\n

You probably already know \u300c\u672c\u5f53\u300d, the word you use when you want to say things like, “Really?” or “Yes, really.” But most of the time, you don’t want to sound like a wimp by saying things like, “Oh really? That’s nice.” What you really want to say is something like, “For real?” or “No way!” or maybe even, “You’re shitting me!”. That’s where \u300c\u307e\u3058\u300d comes in. \u300c\u307e\u3058\u300d is often said to be a shortened form of \u300c\u771f\u9762\u76ee\u300d which means “to be serious” (although there are other theories regarding its origin). \u300c\u307e\u3058\u300d is also often written in katakana to show that great emphasis that \u300c\u30de\u30b8\u300d contains.<\/p>\n

A: \u30af\u30ea\u30b9\u3001\u5f7c\u5973\u304c\u3067\u304d\u305f\u3093\u3060\u3063\u3066\u3002
\n– I hear Chris got a girlfriend.<\/p>\n

B: \u3078\uff5e\u3001\u30de\u30b8<\/em>\uff1f
\n– Heh, for real?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Using the \u300c\u3067\u300d Particle for \u30de\u30b8<\/h2>\n

One thing to remember in terms of grammar is the use of particles. When you use \u300c\u672c\u5f53\u300d as an adverb, you attach \u300c\u306b\u300d. However, for \u300c\u30de\u30b8\u300d you attach \u300c\u3067\u300d. There’s no logic that I can figure out to this but then we are talking about slang here.<\/p>\n

A: \u672c\u5f53\u306b<\/em>\u5fd9\u3057\u304f\u3066\u5927\u5909\u3060\u3063\u305f\u3088\u3002
\n– I was really busy and it was tough<\/p>\n

B: \u305d\u3046\u306a\u306e\uff1f
\n– Is that so?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

A: \u3042\u3044\u3064\u3001\u30de\u30b8\u3067<\/em>\u9000\u5b66\u3057\u3061\u3083\u3063\u305f\u306e\uff1f
\n– Did that guy really drop out of school?<\/p>\n

B: \u3046\u3093\u3001\u30de\u30b8\u3067<\/em>\u3002
\n– Yeah, for real.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Differences between \u300c\u672c\u5f53\u300d and \u300c\u30de\u30b8\u300d<\/h2>\n

Besides the difference in the particles, \u300c\u672c\u5f53\u300d and \u300c\u30de\u30b8\u300d are quite different in their tone and usage. For instance, \u300c\u672c\u5f53\u300d sounds cuter, more polite, and more feminine than \u300c\u30de\u30b8\u300d which sounds very rough and crude. In fact, you should take care in using \u300c\u30de\u30b8\u300d with your superiors. Having said that, I think \u300c\u30de\u30b8\u300d is a really useful word to know that you’re going to hear over and over again in daily conversations.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Originally published: 2005\/5\/31 I’m back! Most of you probably don’t know this (or care) but I actually have a real full-time job. And this being Japan, full-time means more like 9 to 8 rather than 9 to 5. So those of you who think I sit at home in my boxers working on my computer, … <\/p>\n

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